. >> let me ask you this, steven miller, ousted head of the irs, will testify on capitol hill today. what would you ask him? >> well, i would ask him what he knew and when he knew it and i would also try to figure out -- and, in fact, he may have just been the fall guy. i would want to know where did this policy start, who talked about it at first, how did it grow with inside the organization and i would like to know who he spoke with in the administration? who else outside of the irs knew about this. the first story from the white house was, oh, you know what, this is just a field office in cincinnati. >> right. >> a bunch of low-level employees. we found out later that just wasn't true. >> joe, during the press conference yesterday, the president spoke out and supported eric holder, the attorney general. is holder's job safe in your opinion? >> it certainly is. i mean the president will stay with eric holder until the very end. remember, eric holder has been under attack from the time almost he got sworn in. there's been one republican dust up after another. republicans would call